tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post4530201909588937944..comments2023-04-07T10:28:40.530+01:00Comments on Rum-Punch Drunk: Bad SamaritansRum-Punch Drunkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-91914546418616244582014-02-02T16:52:52.971+00:002014-02-02T16:52:52.971+00:00It's a bad attitude to have L.A.Green, and the...It's a bad attitude to have L.A.Green, and they might have good reason to be quiet but if they were to be stabbed I hope they would have the same policy, that everyone should keep their traps (mouths) shut. Thanks for the comment mate. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-88614542998269695582014-01-26T22:41:56.681+00:002014-01-26T22:41:56.681+00:00There was a classic example of this in a pyscholog...There was a classic example of this in a pyschology class I took...the story basically was about a woman who was stabbed and there was a bunch of people who witnessed it but nobody said anything...forgive me, I'm paraphrasing the story for the sake of length but the reason behind nobody helping was humans feel a need to mimic. Lol...nobody wanted to help because one person followed by the next felt they should keep their mouth...very similar to the guy you helped...I'm sure tons of people probably saw him but the attitude of, "I'm not doing it." Kept rearing its ugly little head.L.A. Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11735657988446923049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-29865116045600130982013-03-16T09:01:31.116+00:002013-03-16T09:01:31.116+00:00Well, thank God that you were around at that time ...Well, thank God that you were around at that time to help, otherwise I'd hate to think what the consequences would have been. And to think that this man used his time helping others..... need I say more. <br /><br />Maybe we can all continue to learn from this. Thanks Mister Potato.Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-72909420433213315072013-03-13T16:05:14.898+00:002013-03-13T16:05:14.898+00:00I was in Central London, with my sister.A man had ...I was in Central London, with my sister.A man had fallen down, and his shoes were out of his feet.Evrybody thought he was a drunkard, and no one cared.He was having some kind of fits. We ran to his rescue, he was about 50 i think.Well dressed, some kind of office clerk.well trimmed.<br />I was shocked about the indifference of people around him.<br />We gave him water to drink and helped him with his shoes.I wonder how those got out from his feet...<br />He stays in Surrey.He is a social volunteer. He was dizzy,because he hadn't been able to eat properly, BECAUSE HE WAS TOO BUSY HELPING PEOPLE WITH PROBLEMS.He is diabetic type 2 i remember.He forgot his injection because he had meetings.<br />And the people around, just ignore him, like a vulgar dog hit by some cars.<br />I will stop here.Please ponder.Mister Potatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307618799610852151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-59288428534064225362012-12-28T03:59:55.753+00:002012-12-28T03:59:55.753+00:00Yes, I see your point. Sometimes people don't ...Yes, I see your point. Sometimes people don't help in situations like this because they fear they will be seriously injured ie: electrocution, but there is no excuse why they didn't press any alarms on the train platforms etc (not sure if they have the same systems we have for emergencies). <br />There has also been a couple incidences where people have been deliberately pushed on to the tracks for absolutely no reason, so I am very careful not to stand close to the edge now. There are some crazy folk around. Thanks for commenting :)Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-53464922344836095952012-12-28T02:21:36.606+00:002012-12-28T02:21:36.606+00:00You are so right. Even worse situation is what hap...You are so right. Even worse situation is what happened in NYC not too long ago in the subway. This man was on the tracks (anothe man pushed him) and no one helped. He was standing on the tracks - obviously trying to get up to the platform, and all he needed was one person to help him up, but not only did nobody help, but a photographer took a picture of the accident, supposedely to warn the train driver with his flash. My words might be harsh, but I really think that photographer should be sentenced to murder second degree! I was repulsed, and it makes me scared when I walk next to the track now. What if I slip? Will everyone let me die? OneBigMistake, andSomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01921611798200613410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-51608897980285669922012-12-06T19:40:07.586+00:002012-12-06T19:40:07.586+00:00Thanks Yun Yi, I'll definitely have a look at ...Thanks Yun Yi, I'll definitely have a look at the link you sent and it's good to get a far Eastern perspective on this, but I'm sorry to hear that life in big cities seems to be the same the world over. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-12002739611931651402012-11-28T00:37:45.618+00:002012-11-28T00:37:45.618+00:00This kind of things happen in china every day. mor...This kind of things happen in china every day. more sadly, just about a year ago a a girl was run by a car and lied down there for ten minuets and people just walked by! http://humanwithoutgod.blogspot.com/2011/10/whats-wrong-with-chinese-people.html<br /><br />despite of cultural or moral differences, i also found that in crowded area, people seem to be less concerned about other lives, because they seem always hurrying for nothing! and in the place that are less populated, people are more friendly, more caring. <br />Yun Yihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06311104014692132715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-27321252567452207782012-11-24T10:52:00.155+00:002012-11-24T10:52:00.155+00:00Jon, don't worry about the length of your comm...Jon, don't worry about the length of your comments on this blog, because you do make very valid points and it's also good to allow people to express a view rather than hold back. Sometimes when you read peoples comments, it can get you thinking on a different level, or it can actually get you to change your views on certain things, so talking it out is a great way to communicate Jon. I've no problem with it at all. <br /><br />The example you brought of that program brilliantly illustrates the layers of prejudice that can come into play behind people's decision to turn a blind eye and refuse help. That is bad, but it completely demonstrates what I'm so concerned about in this post.<br /><br />Your comments are always appreciated Jon. Thanks :)Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-6463294503797612162012-11-24T10:51:08.976+00:002012-11-24T10:51:08.976+00:00Jon, it's really really sad to think that as h...Jon, it's really really sad to think that as human beings we would have the audacity to look at a collapsed person on the street, and then based on his/her appearance, decide whether that person deserves our help or not. You see, you described yourself as possibly looking like a 'homeless, drunkard or panhandler', even if a person was, they are still human beings and in genuine need of help. It's a great shame it has come to that. <br /><br />I hope with all my heart that I never stop to think about the person's appearance but just continue to do what is right. <br />I'm hoping not to get your 'goat up' (get you annoyed or angry) too much with my posts (you should see the debates/arguments at my family functions - you'd want to scream!) but as you said, 'questions need to be asked'. Thanks for you comments Jon. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-20315654078749045092012-11-24T03:50:52.625+00:002012-11-24T03:50:52.625+00:00I'm back... This has just been eating at me si...I'm back... This has just been eating at me since I read it. What IS wrong with people. We have a TV show here, it's called What Would YOU Do. They set up scenarios with hidden camera's and actors and televise peoples reactions to those scenarios. I don't actually watch the show very much, I feel like most of the scenarios are pretty hokey... I feel like if I walked into the scenario, I'd be like "Okay, wheres the camera... Where's John Quiones?" but every once in a while they set up something that seems pretty real. They set up a couple of different scenarios much like the one you describe. First, they used a female actress and had her lay on the side walk as if she had passed out. She had no problem getting help. Then they had a male actor do the same thing. No on approached the man. but several people did get out thier cell phones. In the final scenario they used the same male actor, but they put a beer can NEAR him, not even in his hand or anything. Just near him. It really was heartbreaking to watch. Person after person walked by him. They ONLY person that stopped to help that man was an elderly, black homeless lady. She was handicapped, and appeared to be maybe slightly mentally handicap as well. When she saw the man she went to him and tried to get a reaction from the actor. When she got none she started looking for help. She did't have a phone so she started asking passers by to call 911. Still person after person walked by. Some people actually recoiled away from the woman while she was begging for someone to help. I couldn't believe it. This woman, this hero in my book, actually went and took the beer can and threw it in the trash can, so no one would see it. And she still had to beg to get someone to dial the phone! It was a while ago that I saw this show, and I'm sure I don't have it detail by detail, but it's close enough for my recollection. It really goes to show were morality lies in today's societies. <br /><br />Sorry for writing my own blog posts on your page. :) But so often you bring up issues that have already plagued my mind, and it gives me the opportunity to let some feelings fly. You and your blog never fail to impress me. I'm really done this time.Jon Whitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501552549919471099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-5292672915229606362012-11-23T23:32:33.926+00:002012-11-23T23:32:33.926+00:00Things are the same way here in the U.S. these day...Things are the same way here in the U.S. these days. I don't know what it is... It's heartbreaking is what it is. Do people really live in so much fear these days that they are too afraid of being mugged, or worse. I don't think so, you can dial a cell phone from a long way away. I have been in some pretty rough places in my life, I'm probably a little more paranoid than most too. And I don't live in that kind of fear. I could never walk by someone who appears to be in critical need. Unfortunately, the only reason I see that fits is that people are too wrapped up in their own lives too take the time to make a phone call. If they make the call, they may have to answer some questins, they may be asked to stay on the line until someone arrives... If that happens they will be late for work, or their next spa treatment, or whatever the case may be. And if that happens it's just going to throw the rest of their day off. It's disgusting. It makes me want to swear on your page again. I don't get like this on anyone else's page you know, I'm always very nice on every one else's blogs. Even funny sometimes.<br /><br />But it's why I come here. These are the issues that need to be put in peoples faces. These are the things we need to discuss, in all sincerity. These are the questions that NEED to be asked.<br /><br />Sadly, I believe if this happened to me, and it could... People would walk right by. With my appearance, and the way I walk. - I have tattoos and bad teeth, a shaggy white haired head, a gruff beard. I walk with a limp that makes me look drunk. I have aged beyond my years. I could easily pass for a homeless person, a drunkard, or a panhandler. I believe I could be in serious jeopardy.<br /><br />This is a sad situation, but a great post. Well done, once again. Jon Whitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17501552549919471099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-18529001725522169952012-11-22T05:16:32.222+00:002012-11-22T05:16:32.222+00:00At least you could see that he was clearly getting...At least you could see that he was clearly getting the help from the other 2 people and wasn't being neglected. In a case like that, we all then don't need to stop and gather round the person. Thanks for your comment Jade. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-7379848602252429942012-11-22T05:08:55.238+00:002012-11-22T05:08:55.238+00:00Thanks for your comment My Froley. I didn't re...Thanks for your comment My Froley. I didn't realise that the metro had a 'thanks' section, that's very encouraging because most papers bring bad or mad news, so it is nice to know there are some nice people out there too. <br /><br />Yes, it was a surreal moment for me because you could definitely see someone was lying in the road and even when I stopped to help, everyone was still going past us as if nothing was happening. Strange. <br />Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-18195017926038010802012-11-22T00:37:41.919+00:002012-11-22T00:37:41.919+00:00I did not say I don't like London!!!I love it....I did not say I don't like London!!!I love it...adore it more appropriate !! it got such a "buzz" I been there 3 times and planning to go next year again may be for a few days before heading north ! ^^ <br /><br />Thanks Hoteihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07967459327995287458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-10240068593020923462012-11-21T16:16:30.568+00:002012-11-21T16:16:30.568+00:00I can obviously only speak about where I live but ...I can obviously only speak about where I live but I remember once an incident where an elderly man fell on some steps in the town centre and cut his head - it obviously wasn't a really bad wound but head wounds bleed a lot! Two people instantly came to his aid. One sat with him and held some tissues to his head and the other called an ambulance. I didn't stop to help but that's only because he had all the help he needed.<br /><br />I can't imagine stepping over someone who is passed out on the floor! That's disgusting. Maybe where I live is just a bit different to London :/ Jadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18411634345326450478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-2705006785731354532012-11-21T12:56:46.637+00:002012-11-21T12:56:46.637+00:00How shocking, I'm one of those people who offe...How shocking, I'm one of those people who offers to help someone at the smallest instance. I know that there are just as many vulnerable people as there are dangerous people. I know that if it was me or a member of my family lying hurt on the ground I'd want someone to help. I love reading through the 'thanks' section of the metro because it reminds me that people help other people every day. The man was lucky you happened to be walking past to help (were people really stepping over him!? How disgusting)<br /><a href="http://myfroley.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://myfroley.blogspot.com</a>My Froleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15484466182674852087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-57287312788561894762012-11-21T12:30:11.119+00:002012-11-21T12:30:11.119+00:00I guess that's the beauty of living in a small...I guess that's the beauty of living in a small town, people are more likely to know their neighbors and less likely to ignore something like this happening on their door-steps without taking action. Thanks NP for your comment.Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-62771545079502192462012-11-21T12:25:44.229+00:002012-11-21T12:25:44.229+00:00I won't pretend this sort of thing doesn't...I won't pretend this sort of thing doesn't happen in London as similar things have happened to me. If I'm stopped by a tourist for directions I always tell them afterwards it would be a better idea if they stopped someone official ie: policeman, traffic warden, tube worker etc as you are more likely to get better help and/or directions, and you won't be ignored. <br />I love my London but it can be a cold harsh place if you're not familiar with it and/or the people. Glad you got the help though, even if it was by your own fellow countrymen. We have a lot to learn. :)<br />Thanks for your comments Hotei. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-35941916765577597802012-11-21T12:16:58.650+00:002012-11-21T12:16:58.650+00:00Michelle, I am the first to say that you must do a...Michelle, I am the first to say that you must do a quick risk assessment with everything these days. Don't ever just dive in otherwise you may find yourself in more trouble than you thought, women especially, so I agree with you. I must admit that I love the hustle and bustle too. <br />Thanks so much for commenting.Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-79455152242721075142012-11-21T12:12:56.185+00:002012-11-21T12:12:56.185+00:00That's the key Nell. Treating others how we wa...That's the key Nell. Treating others how we want to be treated. I've got a topic for the future called 'There but for the grace of God go I', so I smiled when you mentioned it. <br />Thanks for your comment Nell. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-7627716301045871202012-11-21T12:09:32.279+00:002012-11-21T12:09:32.279+00:00Yes Gabriel, I'm afraid that's how society...Yes Gabriel, I'm afraid that's how society seems to be going sometimes. As long as we all take a stand to try to do the minimum, it could save someones life. Thanks Gabriel.Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-80289112137095507922012-11-21T12:07:39.109+00:002012-11-21T12:07:39.109+00:00It must be that bystander effect that Neel Joshi s...It must be that bystander effect that Neel Joshi spoke of, or maybe people just don't care anymore. Either way, as long as we play our part, that's all we can do. Thanks Roger. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-5498641327025001082012-11-21T12:05:11.869+00:002012-11-21T12:05:11.869+00:00Thanks Menopausal mama. I think in England we seem...Thanks Menopausal mama. I think in England we seem to love our pets more than people. The amount of times I've seen the fire brigade trying to rescue a cat out of the tree/building etc tells me I'm not wrong. Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5914092373936984359.post-76714041403411957442012-11-21T07:23:22.829+00:002012-11-21T07:23:22.829+00:00I've not heard about this bystander effect beh...I've not heard about this bystander effect behavioral phenomenon, but I have seen what you are saying in action. I'll be more alert if I come across this again. Neel, thanks for that important tip and your comments.Rum-Punch Drunkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13531893705181077869noreply@blogger.com